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		traildriver
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:17 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | 	 		  Here's an interesting, detailed page, with much history and detailed info on BRANIFF.........
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braniff_International_Airways
 
 
(be sure to read the section on the SST; some interesting information here; also, good reading on the "MAC" charters)
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
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Here's a nice collection of timetables and historical details about one of the founding airlines that developed into Braniff.   What's interesting to me, is that its founder was also involved with Bowen bus line...which later became Continental Bus System, and later was acquired by M E Moore, who merged several other carrier's into the Transcontinental Bus System (Continental Trailways).
 
https://www.braniffinternational.com/bowen-airlines-timeline | 
			 
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		traildriver
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:29 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Of particular interest also, is the reference 'congratulating' the achievements of the Texas and Pacific Ry.   Fly by day, ride train by night, in a coordinated service that United, and TWA also practiced with other railroads. | 
			 
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		NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
  
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				traildriver:
 
 
Appreciate the link; will certainly enjoy this, later this evening!   
 
 
It is sobering to think that, today, in 2025, not only have virtually all of the once-prosperous, well-known railroads are now but "fallen flags" ditto, so many once-commonplace bus companies.
 
 
And, did we EVER THINK that, one day, these airlines would be relegated to the history books?
 
 
TWA
 
 
EASTERN
 
 
PAN AM
 
 
BRANIFF
 
 
NATIONAL
 
 
WESTERN
 
 
BRITISH UNITED
 
 
BOAC
 
 
PIEDMONT 
 
 
MOHAWK
 
 
BOAC
 
 
PEOPLES EXPRESS
 
 
TOWER AIR
 
 
IMHO, I've long thought of a national airline network (think now of AMTRAK) operating the airlines, instead of what remains of the private carriers remaining in the private sector.................
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
["FLY EASTERN'S PROP-JET ELECTRA"] | 
			 
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		traildriver
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:19 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Allegheny
 
North Central
 
Lake Central
 
Continental
 
Canadian Pacific
 
Capital
 
Northwest
 
Ozark
 
Reno Air
 
Texas International
 
Air California
 
Northeast
 
Midwest
 
Bonanza
 
Hughes Air West
 
Pilgrim
 
Provincetown and Boston
 
Panagra
 
US Air
 
Business Express
 
 
 
And a whole lot more.... | 
			 
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		traildriver
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:23 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Piedmont actually still exists...they are a wholly owned American Airlines regional subsidiary, dba American Eagle, as are also PSA (Pacific Southwest Airlines), and Envoy.... | 
			 
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		NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
  
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:50 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | traildriver wrote: | 	 		  | Piedmont actually still exists...they are a wholly owned American Airlines regional subsidiary, dba American Eagle, as are also PSA (Pacific Southwest Airlines), and Envoy.... | 	  
 
 
traildriver:
 
 
Appreciate, as always, the additional info; quite ironic, indeed, that the airlines took so much traffic away from the railroads, and yet, so many have, like the railroads, disappeared.
 
 
Speaking of airlines past.........
 
 
I always thought it interesting that TWA never expressed interest in prop-jets (such as the VISCOUNT and the ELECTRA); the carrier went from piston-engined airliners to pure jets, with now "in between" stop with prop-jets.
 
 
A few of the of the airlines that once operated the L-188 ELECTRA----
 
 
EASTERN
 
 
AMERICAN 
 
 
NORTHWEST
 
 
WESTERN
 
 
BRANIFF 
 
 
QUANTAS
 
 
AIR FLORIDA
 
 
I personally recall that cargo carrier ZANTOP was still using converted ELECTRAS out of Newark, through the 1980s.......
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
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		NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
  
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:55 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Recalling the sleek, stylish L-188 "ELECTRA" (as a youngster, I remember this classic airliners at the old Newark Airport, sporting the liveries of EASTERN, AMERICAN, and NORTHWEST).........
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_L-188_Electra | 
			 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Another popular prop-jet of the 1950s was the distinctive VICKERS VISCOUNT; the ones I remember at Newark were flown by UNITED, and, of course, had originally been part of the CAPITAL fleet...........
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Viscount
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 11:09 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Sometimes known as the "Whispering Giant", the big BRISTOL BRITANNIA (prop-jet) was once used by a number of carriers, and was featured prominently in the 1960 airline disaster drama "JET OVER THE ATLANTIC", starring George Raft and Virginia Mayo (COOL cockpit/flight prep sequences as a bonus!)   
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Britannia
 
 
["'EL CONQUISTOR' PROP-JET FLIGHT 500 TO NEW YORK"] | 
			 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:33 am    Post subject:  | 
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				A few interesting historical "tidbits" frpm the outstanding (color) photo book:
 
 
"AIRLINERS AT LAX 1956-1976" (Robert D. Archer)........
 
 
"......in 1956, Delta did not serve LAX directly, but was part of the Delta-National interchange service, between LAX and Miami, with intermediate stops......"
 
 
"......although both Capital and Northeast both were interested in buying the Bristol Britannia, the FAA raised concerns over the design  of the main landing gear; a re-design would have been both time-consuming and costly, so it is not surprising that both carriers lost interest......"
 
 
"......Air Canada flew DC-8s into LAX from Montreal via Toronto......"
 
 
".....Mexicana's de Havilland Comets were the only ones to serve LAX commercially, but they remained in service for at least a decade....."
 
 
".....by the mid-1970s, most of the major long-haul airlines were flying 747s into LAX......"
 
 
"......United Air Lines stuck with the original DC-7 model with a fleet of 53, and never purchased any DC-7B or DC-7C variants......"
 
 
".......in Canada, CP Air (owned by Canadian Pacific Airways), once competed with the government-owned Air Canada, and eventually obtained rights to fly into LAX  from Vancouver....."
 
 
".......in the late 1960s and early 1970s, British Caledonian Airways flew many charter flights from LAX to Gatwick, using 707s. that enjoyed very high load factors......."
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:01 pm    Post subject:  | 
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Nice find!
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:39 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				traildriver:
 
 
I am SURE you'll get as much (if not more!) out of this extensive and fascinating page   
 
 
I thought of you as soon as I started scrolling through the page; I was like, "WOW!!!!"   
 
 
So much fascinating and colorful history here, regarding the airlines of old, just like the buses and railroads!)   
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
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