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PSNJ: the last years........
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W.B. Fishbowl



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Norfolk Street (1957 and 2011)

Note the abandoned ramps that were used by the "#23 CENTRAL" cars until late 1947.

The rails and switches were removed in the early 1980s........

The PCCs, of course, are now but fond memories...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?149776

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?76112

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No question: The old ones are the best.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYO,

Rode a lot of MC-7's in the '70's. Wasn't fond of what came after.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
NYO,

Rode a lot of MC-7's in the '70's. Wasn't fond of what came after.


Cyberider:

IMHO, the first several series of the MCIs which went to American buyers were the best; good-looking buses, rugged, and reliable.

MCIs seemed to be pretty much the "go to" highway coach for many operators for so many years; this also includes a large number of tour operators, aswell as regional carriers.

Way back in the early 1980s, VERY early in the NJT era, there were a few nice-looking, second-hand "7s" running on the rush-hour express (ex-ORANGE & BLACK "RIVER ROAD EXPRESS") that I frequently commuted on; Fishbowls then still dominated.

According to our highly-knowledgeable friend "traildriver", HAUSMAN BUS SALES was then the new MCI bus dealer, but, also, had a large fleet of retired GREYHOUND buses, which they leased to many operators............

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, the first Canadian buses to operate in NJ were not MCI's; in the late 1960s, "SOMERSET" purchased several PREVOST "Champions" for commuter service into New York.

These handsome buses had the distinction of being the first non-domestic buses purchased by an American carrier.

It would have been interesting had PSNJ purchased a few of the "Champions"........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154518

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154522

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"...........

After WW2, CCF-BRILL (the Canadian branch of ACF-BRILL) manufactured the 'VOYAGEUR", a 29-passenger intercity bus that was a virtual clone of FLXIBLE's popular "Clipper".

PREVOST also built a number of postwar highway coaches, which also incorporated some FLXIBLE styling, including the rounded, windowless rears and distinctive rear air scoop..........

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was not until the later 1970s that non-GM buses began operating over PSNJ/TNJ routes; these reliable, hard-working buses were part of a nearly 900 bus order by the NJDOT for FLXIBLE New Looks.................

jttps://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155323

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155329

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Into the early 1980s, NJT was still operating "first generation" suburban Fishbowls; like most New Jersey suburban carriers, PSNJ purchased their first Fishbowls in 1960.

These were also among the first Fishbowls to be retired by NJT.............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155342 (also, note CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS Eagle outbound, heading west on the helix)

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156475

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, but not nearly as dignified as the Old Look Suburbans.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Nice, but not nearly as dignified as the Old Look Suburbans.


Cyberider:

The Old Look suburbans were indeed in a class of their own; it was clear that, by the mid-1970s, whatever Old Look suburbans were then still operating, that they were soon to disappear.

As I had posted earlier, the very last were the few still operated by "SOMERSET"; these few remaining workhorses were retired in the early 1980s, and, in fact, were the very last Old Look suburbans to run into the "Port-of-Authority".

I grew up with these handsome, classic, buses, and miss them still today........

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also of interest.....

In 1957, the JERSEY CENTRAL TRANSPORTATION COMPANY (a bus subsidiary of the CRRNJ) was sold to SOMERSET..........

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though MACK transits were quite commonplace in my area(Hudson County) through much of the 1960s, the only company in my general area to operate MACK suburbans was the now-defunct "ORANGE & BLACK"; these buses (which indeed I do remember as a lad) were particularly handsome.

Outside of a postwar demo, PSNJ never rostered postwar MACKS, in any configuration.

This photo from 1964 shows a smart-looking MACK operating for a Long Island company, back in 1964.

What makes this photo unusual (at least to me) are the passenger windows; these windows are more reminiscent of those used on the postwar ACF-BRILL "C-44s"..

"LAKELAND" was another NJ-based suburban carrier that rostered MACKS into the 1960s............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153632

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCR registers.........

By the 1960s, unlike the buses of the local "independent" companies in my area, PS used NCR ticket registers, instead of the usual fare boxes, on its "local" routes

NCR registers in New Jersey were commonly used on the buses of suburban carriers.

These big, hulking machines lasted into the 1980s, before being replaced with new fare boxes.

I am VERY fortunate to have one of these rare NCR registers in my collection today; I can STILL hear the familiar sounds they made, when the driver was hitting its keys, punching out the fare info! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never experienced the NCR fare boxes but certainly remember the clickity-clack and the wheel spinning around on the front of the Johnson fareboxes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Never experienced the NCR fare boxes but certainly remember the clickity-clack and the wheel spinning around on the front of the Johnson fareboxes.


Cyberider:

To THIS VERY DAY, Your's Truly can STILL do a dang good imitation of a Johnson Type "D" fare box! (hey, I grew up with them!) Wink

There would be the merry jingle of coins dropping down into the box (though the little angled chute) then, after the coins dropped down into the chamber, the driver would hit the little lever on the box side, setiing the small wheel on the side in motion, as the mechanism began it's distinctive, cheery-sounding song! Very Happy

The very last of these ancient fare boxes in my area was one from a long-ago retired ex-NHBL bus, installed in an ex-WAMTA Flex New Look, being used on the old NHBL's #1!

I used to ride this bus every weekday morning, from 1995 through 1997! Very Happy

All of the NJ-area suburban carriers used the old (and HEAVY!) NCR registers through the 1980s..........aaahh, the memories! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fascinating history of the Johnson fare box.......

www.johnsonfarebox.com

(the one in the top photo is EXACTLY what I knew for decades!) Wink

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