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				 Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 10:46 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Just thinking..........
 
 
Recall how the "Tee-Yay" purchased the abandoned Rockaway line from the "El-Eye-Double-Are", and rebuilt it for subway service?
 
 
Your's Truly has long wondered why that the "Tee-Yay" take over the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Beach line, and, as they did with the main section of the former LIRR line, and rebuild it into a new subway corridor.
 
 
After all, the line WAS built for high-platform, third-rail operation.
 
 
I've heard many proposals regarding the "rebirth" of this long-abandoned line, including a light-rail operation.
 
 
Hard to believe passenger service has now been gone for over 60 years, now.........
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:10 am    Post subject:  | 
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				"What used to be" (1956); this photo is indeed a "classic", for obvious reasons!   
 
 
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75675
 
 
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 4:15 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Thinking.........
 
 
As the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Branch was "feeling the pinch" even back in the 1950s, I've long thought of why the "Tee-Yay" didn't make an offer to the LIRR and purchase the branch, at the same time they were were rebuilding what later became the IND's Rockaway line.
 
 
Recall the "Tee-Yay" purchasing the "R-16s" for the new service; think of them purchasing additional units to operate over the Rockaway Beach line, upgrading and modernizing the branch as well.
 
 
Had such a scenario taken place, I wonder what letter/number designation might have been given to the trains running over this new "Tee-Yay" subway route.
 
 
Recalling now the abandoned "Westchester" ROW up in "da Bronx", and transforming it into a rapid transit line, which, in 1957, would also see through servive to Manhattan and Brooklyn....
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 5:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Construction work taking place at the site of the future "Eye-En-Dee" station at Howard Beach, 1955.
 
 
Note the "Kramden" at far left............
 
 
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75689
 
 
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
 
 
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		W.B. Fishbowl
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 6:24 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | 	 		  Thinking.........
 
 
As the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Branch was "feeling the pinch" even back in the 1950s, I've long thought of why the "Tee-Yay" didn't make an offer to the LIRR and purchase the branch, at the same time they were were rebuilding what later became the IND's Rockaway line.
 
 
Recall the "Tee-Yay" purchasing the "R-16s" for the new service; think of them purchasing additional units to operate over the Rockaway Beach line, upgrading and modernizing the branch as well.
 
 
Had such a scenario taken place, I wonder what letter/number designation might have been given to the trains running over this new "Tee-Yay" subway route.
 
 
Recalling now the abandoned "Westchester" ROW up in "da Bronx", and transforming it into a rapid transit line, which, in 1957, would also see through servive to Manhattan and Brooklyn....
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
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Alas, one thing that put paid to R-16's on the Rockaway line was an electricians' strike at Westinghouse, which meant that when the line opened (on time, for a change), it had to operate on reduced power with strictly "Arnines" until the strike was settled. | 
			 
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				 Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 6:31 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				"Arnines" on the Rockaway line (note "HH" designation, originally used for the Court Street shuttle, which closed in 1946)............
 
 
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?23254
 
 
(courtesty: nyvsubway.org)
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 7:01 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Just came across the following...........
 
 
https://thequeenslink.org/the-plan/
 
 
(be sure to read of the new subway stations, as well as mention of the local bus routes)
 
 
["TRAINS TO QUEENS-LAST TWO STAIRWAYS"] | 
			 
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				 Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 8:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I've posted this link in the past elsewhere, but felt it was of related interest.........
 
 
https://forgotten-ny.com/2015/09/woodhaven-station-woodhaven/
 
 
Thinking now.........
 
 
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Imagine the LIRR building an all-new underground line in Queens, serving areas not convenient to the subways.
 
 
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Think of the IND pushing even deeper into Queens, and penetrating into Nassau.
 
 
Note the distinct "Eye-En-Dee" feel of this long-abandoned station; the remaining signs/tiles indeed echo the "Eye-En-Dee" of that era............
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 10:36 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | 	 		  Just came across the following...........
 
 
https://thequeenslink.org/the-plan/
 
 
(be sure to read of the new subway stations, as well as mention of the local bus routes)
 
 
["TRAINS TO QUEENS-LAST TWO STAIRWAYS"] | 	  
 
Hmmm.  Looks like the M line in this scheme would be a circular route then. | 
			 
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