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		NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
  
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:28 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				(SEE PREVIOUS POST)
 
 
Further:
 
 
I truly believe that there are QUITE a few historic "FA-KO" photos out there, photos that we still have not had the pleasure of viewing (in any format); all the more reason to publish an "IMAGES OF AMERICA" book on the company, from omnibuses to Fishbowls..........
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
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		NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
  
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:12 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Interesting.....
 
 
In the aforementioned book on the CMCCo, there is an interesting photo of Old Look #621, one of the last purchased by CMCCo.
 
 
The bus sports a silversiding strip under the windows; I've always wondered why none of "FAK-KO's later Old Looks were not equipped likewise.
 
 
Several NHBL Old Looks had them; I always thought these buses looked quite stylish.......   
 
 
"NYO"
 
 
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		NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
  
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:22 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				As an example*..............
 
 
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156594
 
 
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
 
 
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*It should be noted that the last series of Old Looks purchased by PE (2700s/2900s) also sported silver strips under the windows...... | 
			 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Also............
 
 
I wonder had CMCCo had remained independent a few years, might they have experimented with a/c, a la #3100?
 
 
Just thinkin'.......
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Interesting, also, that CMCCo once operated, for a time FORD transits, a type of bus you would not have been seen on the "Fak-Ko" roster.
 
 
Ditto WHITE 798s............
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 8:41 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Also.............
 
 
Take notice also, that, unlike the "See-Es-El", CMCCo obviously had no desire to purchase any postwar ACF-BRILL "C-46s".
 
 
But, like "Fakk-Ko", "motor coach" DID purchase some postwar "Pattons"; as was the case with "Fakk-ko", the "Gee-Em's" MORE than dominated the fleet.........
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:10 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Interesting that FACCO had 25 Mack C50 while CMC had only eight of them and 102 inches wide rather than 96 as FACCO. | 
			 
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		MaBSTOA 15
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:13 am    Post subject:  | 
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				And FACCO and NYCO each had one White 788 as a demo. 
 
Then FACCO had six White model 1150 and CMC did t. | 
			 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:25 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| The type of side rear view mirror on the drivers window was also an option. | 
			 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:36 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | MaBSTOA 15 wrote: | 	 		  | Interesting that FACCO had 25 Mack C50 while CMC had only eight of them and 102 inches wide rather than 96 as FACCO. | 	  
 
 
MaBSTOA 15:
 
 
After reading the "CHICAGO MOTOR COACH COMPANY" book, I was thinking the the very same thing.
 
 
Recall, also, the massive order that CTA placed for the nearly 1,000 propane-powered "Oddballs"; given the fact that (from what I've read) these buses were NOT the most reliable in the CTA fleet (and, also, had quite a few operating issues)
 
 
IMHO, I think that it was a wise move on CMCCo's part to steer clear of these buses..........
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 2:49 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Jere's another OUTSTANDING Chicago* page; while there are also many excellent streetcar (and trolleybus) photos here, you will also find a number of great vintage "Shik-aga" bus photos, including a RARE view of a postwar "Patton"!   
 
 
Ahhh, for those glorious, long-ago days of REAL buses!   
 
 
*The 1950s color photo looking north from State and Van Buren is AWESOME; the scene is just CHOCK-FULL of buses AND pre- and postwar PCCS!
 
 
NO WONDER "Shik-aga" was once such a MECCA for transit fans!
 
 
https://thetrolleydodger.com/2017/02/
 
 
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		W.B. Fishbowl
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 4:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| And no doubt, like in "Noo Yawk," "Shik-aga's" current crop of buses are likewise insipid and potentially deadly (as in, batteries catching fire). | 
			 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 4:56 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | 	 		  | And no doubt, like in "Noo Yawk," "Shik-aga's" current crop of buses are likewise insipid and potentially deadly (as in, batteries catching fire). | 	  
 
 
W.B.
 
 
No doubt.
 
 
No matter, everything today is either rolling iPads, milk cartons, or mutant caterpillars...........   
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 5:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | 	 		  | And no doubt, like in "Noo Yawk," "Shik-aga's" current crop of buses are likewise insipid and potentially deadly (as in, batteries catching fire). | 	  
 
 
W.B.:
 
 
Here are some photos of the "See-Tee-Yay's" contingent of "BINOs"   
 
 
https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Chicago_Transit_Authority | 
			 
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