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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2026 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
Off hand, I would guess about 15 years, or so.


traildriver:

Thank you again! Wink

I recall seeing photos years ago (online; site must have been "Strayhoud") )of SILVERSIDES that were still being used in Bay-area commute service i nthe later 1960s; those big workhorses would have been at least 20 (or more) years old by that late date, a testimony to thier solid, rugged construction........... Very Happy

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2026 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.......hardto believe that the classic 1934 comedy, "IT HAPPENED ONE BIGHT" was filmed 92 years ago......so sobering that everything and everyone associated with that clsissc "Hound" comedy has long since disappeared, except for the "GREYHOUND"name.

How bright the future looked for the 'hound, back in '34! Very Happy

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2026 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver wrote:
Off hand, I would guess about 15 years, or so.


traildriver:

Thank you again! Wink

I recall seeing photos years ago (online; site must have been "Strayhoud") )of SILVERSIDES that were still being used in Bay-area commute service i nthe later 1960s; those big workhorses would have been at least 20 (or more) years old by that late date, a testimony to thier solid, rugged construction........... Very Happy

"NYO"

["SAN FRANCISCO"]


When I was on temporary assignment for Greyhound at San Francisco in December of 1971, they were still using 1948 PD-4151 Silversides's on the East Bay trips to Concord and other routes during the commute hours out of the Transbay Transit Terminal. So they were 23 years old, and counting, at that time.
And they were indeed, in remarkably good shape. They probably could have lasted another ten years with minimal maintenance....
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2026 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver......

I guess, after all, the old saying is true....."you cab't keep a good bus down"........ Wink

A sa kid (early/mid-1060s) I clearly remember "SILVERSIDES" being used iin charter service....not to mention a few "long in the tooth" 743s................ Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2026 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further..........

The last "SILVERSIDES" I ever saw in my area waz close to 40 years ago; for years, two of them (in different paint) sat behind a service station on Route #4 in Ridgefield, heading east.

They had obviously been sitting therfe for quite some time; certainly hope at least one was saved..............

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2026 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver......

I guess, after all, the old saying is true....."you cab't keep a good bus down"........ Wink

A sa kid (early/mid-1060s) I clearly remember "SILVERSIDES" being used iin charter service....not to mention a few "long in the tooth" 743s................ Very Happy

"NYO"

["GENERAL MOTORS"]


My seventh grade teacher took us on a three day trip to Washington, DC in 1960. We chartered a bus from a local Queens company (Singerman), and first a PD-4151 showed up, but when our teacher asked to see the certificates for the bus, there was no current insurance papers. They could not come up with one, and after much wrangling with the driver, and the owner on the phone, a replacement bus arrived a couple of hours later.
It was another ex-Greyhound, but this time, an ancient Yellow 743 Super Coach. By far, the oldest coach, (not sure if it was a '36,7,8, or 9 build), I have ever ridden, not have had the pleasure to ride on a conventional front engined coach, except for some museum pieces for short rides.

It did have proper papers... Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2026 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Further..........

The last "SILVERSIDES" I ever saw in my area waz close to 40 years ago; for years, two of them (in different paint) sat behind a service station on Route #4 in Ridgefield, heading east.

They had obviously been sitting therfe for quite some time; certainly hope at least one was saved..............

"NYO"

["NEW YOK"]


While only a few have been preserved or restored, there are many still rolling happily along as converted recreational vehicles, although many are highly modified to being almost unrecognizable...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2026 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildrier:

Do you have info on about when GREYHOUND began retiring "SILVERSIDES" from"front line" duties in the East?

I would guess that a number might have been replaced by 4106s............

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2026 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildrier:

Do you have info on about when GREYHOUND began retiring "SILVERSIDES" from"front line" duties in the East?

I would guess that a number might have been replaced by 4106s............

"NYO"

["SECOND SECTION"]


Can't say for sure, although when I entered the business in 1968, they were all gone in the East. Even the 4103's were gone by then, although other carrier's still ran those. The 4104's were the oldest in the fleet.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2026 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYO--If you like nostalgia (I know you do Wink )
Take a look at this obvious 'Company" piece on Youtube.

Poor print quality, but great views of the Silverside in action, inside and out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JybegT_-sPQ
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2026 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildrier:

Thanks for the link and the info! Wink

Was GREYHOUND still using any ACF-BRILL" IC-41s" post-1960, in any areas?

I would guess that the "Flexies" had already been sold off by that late date............

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildrier:

Thanks for the link and the info! Wink

Was GREYHOUND still using any ACF-BRILL" IC-41s" post-1960, in any areas?

I would guess that the "Flexies" had already been sold off by that late date............

"NYO"

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I don't think so...I never saw any. Read that they were sold off by 1957...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2026 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Wow, those "41s" were not all that long for the Hound's "jennel"; if they were gone by'57, rest assured these handsome buses quickly found new operators, given that they were only about a decade old.

I DO recall seeing some in charter service, back in the early/mid-70s......they were truly STYLISH-looking buses, indeed.......... Crying or Very sad

(TRAILWAYS had quitea few "41s", also)

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2026 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of ACF-BRILLs..............

Through the mid-1960s, "C-44s"were rostered by

DE CAMP

INTER-CITY

SOMERSET.

These big buses were indeed handsome, and I can still hear their deep bass growling, even today!

Mom and I often rode them on DE CAMP's #22 and INTER-CITY's #97; I ialso saw those magnificent SOMERT buses near the "Port"and the Lincoln Tunnel.

The lst of these tough=sounding buses vanished around 1967...................I miss them still.........

"NYO"

["22 JERSEY CITY"]

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