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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15:

In the 1978 issue of "MOTOR COACH AGE" (the issue was on DE CAMP) which I've already brought to your attention, there is a photo of one of the first postwar GM "suburbans" the company purchased (circa-1946); the buses had square windows, single doors, and no standee windows (they were equipped with luggage racks, however)

During the 1950s, of course, GM's big, husky suburban Old Looks soon became the backbone of most New Jersey suburban carriers.

Well into the 1970s, I remember "ORANGE & BLACK having a group of Old Looks on the roster which I termed "semi-suburbans"; these buses had a single door, transit-style seating, and standee windows......

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a good page on the once-commonplace "Buffalo" (note photo of a restored example which once was on the "Pee-Es" roster!) Wink

I've always found these eye-catching buses to be quite interesting........ Very Happy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Buffalo_bus

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"OH, CANADA!" (greetings from 1966!) Wink

https://explorenorth.com/library/bus/coachways-gm-1966.html

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also of interest......

https://www.barnfinds.com/a-diamond-in-the-rough-1970-gmc-buffalo-bus/

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Buffalo" trivia..........

Interestingly, the PD-4903 was the first 40-foot GM bus available to non-GREYHOUND operators (recall, "The Hound" had an exclusive 40-foot design, the iconic PD-4501 Scenicruiser)

The next version, the PD-4905, generated only 331 sales.

The P8M-4905A introduced a fully-retractable rear axle; 2,027 of this model were sold over a period of seven years.

It should also be noted that, by the mid-1960s, GM's intercity coach line had declined as both GREYHOUND and TRAILWAYS began building their own buses.

Furthering the decline of GM's once-profitable intercity market, many smaller carriers began buying buses from GREYHOUND's subsidiary MCI INDUSTRIES, or TRAILWAYS EAGLE MANUFACTURING.

Indeed, it was the end of the line for the production of GM intercity coaches.

It should also be noted that the "Buffao" was the last GM-built bus purchased by GREYHOUND...........

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That background might explain why Flxible never built their own version of the "Bison," that decline in "intercity" bus sales that "Gee-Em" experienced.

Speaking of intercity buses, I saw over the weekend one of those intercity "BINO's" that had things sticking out of them in the front that made them look like robotic reindeer. An example of how "futuristic" = Shocked x Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
That background might explain why Flxible never built their own version of the "Bison," that decline in "intercity" bus sales that "Gee-Em" experienced.

Speaking of intercity buses, I saw over the weekend one of those intercity "BINO's" that had things sticking out of them in the front that made them look like robotic reindeer. An example of how "futuristic" = Shocked x Rolling Eyes


W.B.:

Indeed, those "robotic reindeer" antlers (or cockroach antennas) only serve to make an UG-LEE-looking "BINO" uglier; I think I had heard that they are used for GPS (I could be 100% wrong) or, possibly, "hi-tech" mirrors.

In any event, I am NO FAN Of them........."robotic roaches"/robotic reindeer", indeed......... Razz

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