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W.B. Fishbowl
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Of course, I was going by this photo, on the "Gehrig" line (because, after all, the route that goes to Yankee Stadium bore his number - #4):
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | Of course, I was going by this photo, on the "Gehrig" line (because, after all, the route that goes to Yankee Stadium bore his number - #4):
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?4185
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W.B.:
What possible PLEASURE did those "frustrated urban artists" derive from defacing the cars with their hideous scrawlings? 
Back in those dark days (which Your's Truly clearly recalls) it was glaringly clear just WHO was in CONTROL, and who was NOT.........sobering, indeed............ 
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 8:41 am Post subject: |
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The year is 1963, and "Noo Yawk" still had a tremendous and diverse variety of buses and rapid transit cars to capture the interests of thew transit buffs of the day. 
Alas, those days are now long, long gone........ 
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | The year is 1963, and "Noo Yawk" still had a tremendous and diverse variety of buses and rapid transit cars to capture the interests of thew transit buffs of the day.
Alas, those days are now long, long gone........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112939
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Not only that, but numbered routes on the R-16 (the "14" may well have been the "KK Nassau Street" that was around until about 1965, the name to be revived in 1968 with the short-lived Sixth Avenue-Jamaica route). That scenario would likely play out as late as 1969 (the year the "Broadway Battleships" were finally retired) if any photographer were to happen onto the scene to snap a pic of the transit panoply, only with R-16's blaring "QJ." |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Memories.........
Back in the early/mid-1980s, Your's Truly used to take quick "coffee break jaunts" between Broad Street and Clark Street; it was here on the "J" and the "M" that I really got to know those old, noisy, battle-scarred "16s"........ 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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When this classic photo was taken, the "16s" were still the "new kids on the block", subway service to the Rockaways was just beginning, and "Dem Bums" had only one more season in Brooklyn, before heading west to "El-Ay"............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75677
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Here's a truly (circa-late 1950s) showing several sets of "16s" awaiting the next call to duty at ENY.
Note the square-window "Kramdens" down below; any clue as to what lines they were assigned to, out of ENY?
Appreciate info.......
"NYO"
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?97837
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Here's a truly (circa-late 1950s) showing several sets of "16s" awaiting the next call to duty at ENY.
Note the square-window "Kramdens" down below; any clue as to what lines they were assigned to, out of ENY?
Appreciate info.......
"NYO"
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?97837
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According to a 1975 Motor Coach Age article about the Brooklyn and BMT Bus Divisions, these routes would have been at ENY at the time (I wonder if some of those would be streetcar or trackless trolley routes, especially the higher-numbered):
- B-7 - Kings Highway (1956-60)
- B-10 - New Lots Avenue
- B-12 - East New York Avenue
- B-13 - Crescent Street (1950-60)
- B-14 - Pitkin Avenue
- B-18 - Myrtle-Wyckoff (1950-55)
- B-20 - Decatur Street (1950-60)
- B-22 - Atlantic Avenue
- B-24 - Greenpoint Avenue (1954-55)
- B-25 - Fulton Street
- B-27 - Fulton Street Extension (discontinued 2/1/55 - 22 days after R-16's first entered service)
- B-29 - Meeker-Marcy (1954-55)
- B-38 - DeKalb Avenue (1958-60)
- B-39 - Williamsburg Bridge (1948-55)
- B-40 - Ralph Avenue
- B-53 - Metropolitan Avenue (1954-55)
- B-55 - Richmond Hill (1950-60)
- B-56 - Jamaica Avenue
- B-58 - Corona Avenue (1954-60)
- B-59 - Grand Street (1954-55)
- B-60 - Wilson Avenue (1955-56)
- B-72 - Junction Boulevard (1954-55) |
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W.B.:
GREATLY APPRECIATE this info; FAR MORE ROUTES were based at ENY then, far more than I had previously though! 
At the onset of AM and PM rush hours, the bus activity HAD to be at a FEVER PITCH, with so many coming and going!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Here we have a quiet moment at ENY, back in 1962.
Note, also, the battered front end of the "Kramden" on the right side of the photo........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?151314
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